fuentes for joining us. i'd like to begin -- >> thank you for having me. >> i'd like to begin with general allen, if the fbi referred the case to the defense department does that suggest to you that they don't actually see criminal charges here? >> well, it suggests that they only see something that's going to be internal to military, potentially military violations, as opposed to criminal conduct that could be prosecuted in regular criminal court. or security breaches that are also -- would be a violation. so, you know, it would appear that it's strictly an administrative or military matter and that's why they would refer it. >> could we see the next step to that where there could potentially be criminal charges? >> well, there could potentially. they're going to let the army investigate it, and determine what they can find and how they want to proceed, whether it's charges are unfounded, or whether it turns out that they want to have a court-martial or refer it back to the fbi, that would remain to be seen